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09 June 2010 @ 03:37 pm
TV Meme: Day 1  
I'm seeing this television meme ALL OVER my f-list. I've been resisting since I have the whole, "how can I only choose one?!?" thing going on. I don't tend to be an -est kind of girl so much as shades of gray kind of girl. But I want to play along, too!

Day 01 - A show that should never have been canceled:


Firefly. Is there any other answer?? In fact, does anyone need it explained? It's Joss Whedon. It's a great ensemble cast. Fox are idiots.

Day 02 - A show that you wish more people were watching:
Day 03 - Your favorite new show (aired this TV season):
Day 04 - Your favorite show ever:
Day 05 - A show you hate:
Day 06 - Favorite episode of your favorite TV show:
Day 07 - Least favorite episode of your favorite TV show:
Day 08 - A show everyone should watch:
Day 09 - Best scene ever:
Day 10 - A show you thought you wouldn't like but ended up loving:
Day 11 - A show that disappointed you:
Day 12 - An episode you've watched more than 5 times:
Day 13 - Favorite childhood show:
Day 14 - Favorite male character:
Day 15 - Favorite female character:
Day 16 - Your guilty pleasure show:
Day 17 - Favorite mini series:
Day 18 - Favorite title sequence:
Day 19 - Best TV show cast:
Day 20 - Favorite kiss:
Day 21 - Favorite ship
Day 22 - Favorite series finale
Day 23 - Most annoying character
Day 24 - Best quote
Day 25 - A show you plan on watching (old or new)
Day 26 - OMG WTF? Season finale
Day 27 - Best pilot episode
Day 28 - First TV show obsession
Day 29 - Current TV show obsession
Day 30 - Saddest character death
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Mish: AtS -- I'm No Angel[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 9th, 2010 11:13 pm (UTC)
YES! Connor's birth was some of the finest television ever. And if they'd left it as Connor was lost in another dimension, I'd have continued loving it as epic tragedy that only Joss seems capable of writing. Darla is one of my favorite characters.

I disliked what they did with Cordelia from the time they "ascended her" to a PTB. To have her come back and sleep with the son of her love interest and then go into a coma after giving birth to Yet Another Magical Baby...blergh. Even though I enjoyed seeing Gina Torres it was just odd.

I might be oversensitive about the way that shows often seem to have the hero, the sidekick, the bright researcher/scientist/exposition, and the female. For a while it looked like Fred was just another new character but unless there was back stage problems with the actress that I don't know about, the Cordy storylines just make no sense to me. The weirdness I don't like started before Charisma got pregnant.

Knowing Joss's other writing, I tend to think there was something else going on because he isn't the sort to have the one "girl" character. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt but the result of whatever it appears indistinguishable from other shows where there's only room for one 'girl' at a time.

ETA: Sorry for the edits. I always have to edit to get my thoughts clear. Writing is hard for me.

Edited 2010-06-09 11:25 pm (UTC)
[identity profile] luvmax1.livejournal.com on June 9th, 2010 11:27 pm (UTC)
Unless Charisma or Joss ever give a statement, I doubt we'll know what really happened behind the scenes. It could have just been a rare mistake for Joss, the whole Cordy ascencion thing, but that might be oversimplifying things.

I loved Darla and Dru, and I loved when they got the vamp foursome together. But that being said, I never liked Spike. I did prefer him as a villain, rather than a hero, but I never got, or was even comfortable with, his relationship with Buffy. I wasn't too pleased when they announced they were bringing Spike onto Angel in season 5, even though that was probably one of th factors that led to the show's renewal.
Mish: BtVS -- Darla In Sepia[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 9th, 2010 11:50 pm (UTC)
I suppose I could allow that Joss is human and he just goofed it. But in secret I still kind of think of him as my television God.

Dru was truly CREEPY when other vampires tended to put the vamp in vampire. I loved her and the actress was also brilliant. Joss gets the good actresses. I suppose that has to do with writing juicy female roles, eh? Loved the Fanged Four, too. Sometimes I felt like the back story was crowding out the current story from a narrative PoV but I never minded because they were so interesting.

I liked Spike. I liked him better as a villain because it felt a little like they were writing him into the role that Angel was meant to fill, down to his gaining a soul. I love James Marsters and his chemistry with SMG was scorching. I didn't like the way that they wrote the Spike/Buffy relationship but I just wanted James on my screen so I kind of lump it. (But Buffy is the one show I can think of where I don't have an OTP. Or even a preference. I love them all. I love Willow/Oz AND Willow/Tara. I love Buffy/Angel, Buffy/Riley, and Buffy/Spike. I love Anya/Xander.)

I watched the show in spurts over a year rather than over seven years. Watching a show that way fundamentally changes how I interact with it so it's no surprise that I'm less OTP-prone. I don't get invested in couples in quite the same way emotionally.
[identity profile] luvmax1.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 02:00 am (UTC)
I've watched all of Joss's shows regularly, from the beginning, except for, believe it or not, Firefly. I watched the first episode they ever aired, The Train Job, which was actually the second episode filmed. The two hour pilot ep was actually the LAST episode they showed. If they had started from the beginning, liked they should have, I probably would have been hooked right away. Instead, I bought the DVDs after some friends raved about them, and of course, watching everything in the right order, I fell completely in love.

I have always called Joss my TV God, so I guess we have that in common, too. Sometimes I watch a show like Smallville, which has been and will probably always be my number one fandom, and I think, oh my, what Joss could do with this show. I think that about a lot of shows, actually. He writes characters, if you know what I mean. Male or female, it doesn't matter. His creations are always so vivid and real to me. I think that might have been the problem with Dollhouse, his last show. When the premise is that your characters change every episode, it's hard to develop that kind of bond with them.

I have to admit, Buffy/Angel was my OTP for Buffy, and believe it or not, I genuinely liked Angel/Cordelia on Angel. Those were my two true pairs, but other pairings always stood out to me, too. You're right, every pair had a sense of magic about them. Just another Joss touch, I guess.
Mish: BtVS -- Counting Buffy-style (anim)[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 02:52 am (UTC)
I'm sorry to report that I had "no interest" in Buffy because it was a "high school" show. Shows what I know, right? I can't imagine Firefly making much sense without the pilot. It does the basic world-building and introduces the characters.

After Joss, most television seems thoughtless and flat. I think that's a great description: he writes characters. I get the vivid and real thing; after mainlining Buffy, it would surprise me to remember there wasn't a Slayer. I love his work!

I liked Angel/Cordelia, too, and that surprised me because I thought I was hooked on Buffy/Angel. Yup, it's Joss and his writing.

[identity profile] luvmax1.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 02:58 am (UTC)
I think I also worship your icon- it's amazing!

It seems like very few people liked the Angel/Cordy pairing. Welcome to a very small club.

I guess I never really thought of Buffy as a high school show. It came out in 1997, when I was 24 (and a half!) and I watched it just to see what it was like. I was drawn in right from the start, and once I saw Sarah and david's first scene together, I knew I would be hooked.
Mish: BtVS -- Mayor Scrumdidlyumptious Day[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 03:29 am (UTC)
Isn't it? It was made by [livejournal.com profile] awmp. I love it. :)

I figured it wouldn't be popular amongst the Buffy/Angel crowd. If they'd started it up at the beginning of Angel, I doubt I would have liked it but they let it grow organically. *shrug* But then, I did generally like all of his pairings.

I was clearly wrong about it being a "high school" show. The characters attended high school and I mentally lumped it in with the 90210s of the world. I watched very little television until recently. Starting in college, I didn't have a TV and I didn't get one until my grandfather died and nobody else in the family wanted his TV. I've since made up for it in some ways but I still tend to watch television on time delay via DVDs.
[identity profile] luvmax1.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 04:05 pm (UTC)
I can't imagine life without a TV. Without my shows, I would go nuts. I like movies, but I LOVE TV. Before I moved to Florida about a year and a half ago, I hadn't been to a movie in close to a dozen years, but I always had TV. And I love DVD sets, you can play catch up, and pick and choose what eps you want to watch. Trying to watch SG1 on the Syfy Channel was giving me whiplash. They were bouncing back and forth between 3 or 4 seasons at a time, and I never knew what was happening.
Mish: DeeJ -- Sexy As Hell[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 05:51 pm (UTC)
I used to be more literate; I read a lot in those days. I've adapted to life with a TV a little too well now. I haven't been to many movies. They tend to be too cold, so loud as to hurt my ears, but not so loud that I can't hear the inevitable discussion behind me. I find I prefer the longer format story of a series to most movies. I get to know the characters better. I'm totally hooked on DVD sets. I, uh, own a lot of them.
[identity profile] luvmax1.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 05:54 pm (UTC)
I'm definitely the literate sort. I read a lot, usually more than one book at a time, too. Right now it's The Tudors by GJ Meyers and Helen of Troy by Bettany Phillips. I tend towards non fiction these days.

I own a TON of DVD sets. Besides books, they're always at the top of my wish list for birthays and Chanukahs, and when I just have some extra cash. I could live in Barnes and Noble.
Mish: Sam -- Reading Is Sexy[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 12th, 2010 06:31 pm (UTC)
Normally I only read more than one book at a time if I'm reading non-fiction or if I'm not all that excited by the "main" book I'm reading. Otherwise, I'm kind of obsessive and more likely to skip sleep so that I can read.

Same here. My family has stopped buying me the DVDs, which makes me sad, but they say it's boring. I want to come back and haunt Elliot Bay Book Company in Seattle after I die. That's my idea of Heaven.
[identity profile] luvmax1.livejournal.com on June 12th, 2010 10:11 pm (UTC)
One thing I love about my move to Florida is that the libraries down here are amazing. In New York, the library budget was so miniscule that they never got in anything new, and their overall stock was small. Down here, the libraries are gorgeous, architecturally speaking, and full of tons of books, new or otherwise.

I don't know why I read more than 1 book at once. I don't do it, though, if my main book is just so good that I can't put it down. In that case I just keep on reading, even if it's 3 in the morning.

What are some of your favorite books? In fiction I loved The Secret History by Donna Tartt, The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova and Madeleine's ghost, by Robert Giradi. In nonfiction, I tend to favor history, especially British history. I'll read anything by Alison Weir or Antonia Fraser.
Mish[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 19th, 2010 05:20 pm (UTC)
FINALLY had the chance to sit down and answer this; sorry for the delay. STarted a new thread, though, so that I can read the dang thing. It's here:

http://hsapiens.livejournal.com/108784.html?thread=1555952#t1555952
[identity profile] luvmax1.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 02:59 am (UTC)
Forgot to add in my previous comment- Fox made Joss pull Serenity, the original Firefly pilot (not to be confused with the later movie) because it was "too talky". Not enough action, too cerebral. What the hell did they know anyway?
Mish: DeeJ -- Leather Wiggle (anim)[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 03:31 am (UTC)
I think it's pretty clear that FOX is run by room temperature IQs.
[identity profile] luvmax1.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 04:02 pm (UTC)
As Teal'c would say, indeed. And oh my God, I would kill for that icon!
Mish: DeeJ -- Leather Wiggle (anim)[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 05:41 pm (UTC)
Anyone can use it. It was made by [livejournal.com profile] icon_ascension, who posted it for use years ago. Of all the icons I have, it's one of those I've had the longest because it is AWESOME.
[identity profile] luvmax1.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 05:43 pm (UTC)
That's from The Ties that Bind, right? I was watching it last night, but I don't remember any wiggling.
Mish: DeeJ -- Leather Wiggle (anim)[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 05:52 pm (UTC)
Yes, it is. The maker was extremely clever in manipulating the *.gif, looping his action. He adjusted the belt and she took advantage. It's brilliant. :)
[identity profile] luvmax1.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 05:55 pm (UTC)
I really envy icon makers. I have no idea how to do anything artistic, with or without a computer.
[identity profile] luvmax1.livejournal.com on June 9th, 2010 11:28 pm (UTC)
No worries, edits are fine. I ought to do them more often, myself. Some people post such eloquent, thought out statements, and I just jot down whatever comes to mind. Sigh.
Mish: Sam -- Genius[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 9th, 2010 11:52 pm (UTC)
I tend to get tired of seeing the edits show up in my own inbox, but I hate more to leave blatant misspellings or ambiguous antecedents in a comment.
[identity profile] luvmax1.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 01:53 am (UTC)
I tend to think faster than I type, even though I'm usually a fairly good typist. But then the thoughts start piling into my head and I rush to put them down before I forget and I end up with typos all over the place. I hate that!
Mish: Sam -- Genius[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 02:46 am (UTC)
I definitely think faster than I type unless I concentrate on the letters of each word. I end up skipping words by accident, getting the letters and spaces mixed up, and writing stream of consciousness. Reading over it doesn't help me much unless I've let it lie fallow for a little bit, which isn't conducive to online conversations. *sigh*
[identity profile] luvmax1.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 02:50 am (UTC)
Ditto, as Patrick Swayze in Ghost would say.