25 September 2006 @ 04:20 pm
Looking for honest, constructive opinions  
I'm looking for a community that offers brutally honest feedback on icons with an eye towards helping a person improve. I've reached a plateau and a sameness to my icons; I'd like to go further. I ask for constructive criticism on my icon posts, but I think people are too afraid I'll get pissy or that they'll hurt my feelings or something. The comments I get are the, "These are great!/I like ## and am snagging!" variety. I'm not complaining - they're certainly good for the ego - but I need critical feedback to fuel improvement.

Anyone know of any communities like this? Have you gotten similar help? Or is this more like writing and one gets an "icon beta" to help? [livejournal.com profile] jalabert is my current icon beta but she limits her input (mostly) to the icons I make for her. More Voices = More Viewpoints To Consider.

Any other suggestions? I've friended people whose icons I like and stuck them in a filter, "Inspiration," to make it easier to look at examples I like. I spend time trawling fandoms, looking for interesting icons. I have gone through innumerable tutorials, etc. If you've got another cool idea for spurring creativity, please feel free to share. I feel as if text and cropping are especially weak points for me. Maybe I have others I'm blind to? I won't know until someone points it out to me. :)

And yeah, I should be writing up a "here's what I did on vacation" post. That's on my To Do List, as well.
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Mish: Justin -- Drama Queen[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on October 10th, 2006 03:14 am (UTC)
I wanna see your new work, see what your creativity can do
eep! No pressure, no pressure at all...Actually, I played around a lot, looked at tutorials and followed a couple. I can't say that I made anything I love. Maybe a couple that I don't hate. I'm still on the steep part of the learning curve.

So...when is the next time you'll be out of town or otherwise away from the internet? ;-)

Eh, who doesn't have text issues? I hate text...text is HARD. That's why I rarely use it... ;))
In a way, it's comforting to hear you say that because I've always loved your text. In a way, it scares the pants off of me to hear you say that because if *you* are having issues with it then I might well despair.

Anyhow. I'll continue to bumble around I'm sure. Hopefully some day it will click for me. In the meantime, I'm planning to offer textless versions of almost everything.

I'm in a sort of quandry for posting icons at this point. I had a post ready to go back on Sept. 11 but one of the shows I iconned was pre-2001 and featured a pre 9/11 Manhattan skyline. I wasn't certain about that timing so I waited...then I went out of town. Anywho, I had a bunch of icons I'd never posted but now I think they're okay but could be better. I do not want to post a bunch of icons that aren't, in fact, the very best that I'm capable of making. I'm hoping that going through the Paddies School of Seeing has made me capable of making a better icon. So...probably I'll prune heavily and continue to sit on them while I work on making something that won't embarrass me too much.
[identity profile] paddies.livejournal.com on October 10th, 2006 10:30 am (UTC)
I do not want to post a bunch of icons that aren't, in fact, the very best that I'm capable of making. I'm hoping that going through the Paddies School of Seeing has made me capable of making a better icon. So...probably I'll prune heavily and continue to sit on them while I work on making something that won't embarrass me too much.

Awwww...I totally understand you wanting to post the best icons you can possibly make (why do you think it takes me ages to post a new batch?), but still, sometimes you just have to "let go".
Personally, I think the "perfect icon" is very rare...on a batch made of 100 icons I maybe make 5 or six icons that I'm totally, utterly satisfied with.

But I post them anyway, because I'm either "I have to post them now or I'll never will" or "I did the best I could, but the cap was too crappy/dark/low res/whatever to do better"...weirdly enough, sometimes the icons I really didn't want to post (because I didn't like them) are the ones getting more feedback. *life strange*

In conclusion, don't wait too long to post them and remember that's it's a work in progress! If I look back to my first few batches I either want to re-make them from scratch or erase them from the face of earth...thankfully I got better at this iconing thing, and so will you. :-)

Also, I promise I'll point out only the positive stuff for a change, how about that? ;))

*loves*
Mish: B/J -- Deep Dip[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on October 12th, 2006 05:34 pm (UTC)
weirdly enough, sometimes the icons I really didn't want to post (because I didn't like them) are the ones getting more feedback. *life strange*
Absolutely. Ones I pretty much hated are often the most grabbed. I can't begin to guess what people will want so I tend to go with, "How embarrassed would I be to see my name attached to that?"

Also, I promise I'll point out only the positive stuff for a change, how about that? ;))
Do what you will, of course. Heaven knows it takes a LOT less time to say, "I like a couple of these," than it does to explain why you do or don't like something. I will still ask for and gratefully accept any feedback/critiques I can get. There's always room to improve.