03 October 2006 @ 12:50 pm
Morality Police  
(For those outside the U.S.: Foley, a 50-something Republican member of the US Congress, is alleged to have sent admits sending e-mails and explicit IMs to a 16 y.o. kid who worked in the Capitol. Foley co-chaired a committee tasked to protect minors from sexual predators. The Republican leadership is said to have known about it and alleged to have tried to paper over it to avoid a scandal so close to elections.)

Like the Catholic Church, the Self-Appointed American Morality Cops, neƩ "Republicans, the economic conservatives," apparently prefer to tolerate sin within their own ranks because ridding themselves of it conflicts with other, more important goals. There are ringing condemnations now that it's all public but that's the specialty of public moralists: declaring their outraged morality for the cameras.

I have never trusted people who can't seem to shut up about their morals long enough to live them and this scandal reinforces my prejudice. Rather than living a moral life and dedicating themselves to doing what is right, they pay lip service to the concept of morality by worrying about what other people are doing. Judging others is always more fun than judging ourselves.

I am disgusted but hopeful that this will help move some of our morality police out of Congress. Not that I think Democrats are inherently more moral but they tend to be more interested in letting me decide for myself what is moral.
 
 
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[identity profile] darksylvia.livejournal.com on October 3rd, 2006 06:20 pm (UTC)
It's true--the ones who yell loudest about sin are the ones who feel the most dirty.
Mish: B/J & Jen -- Family[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on October 3rd, 2006 06:55 pm (UTC)
Many of this cast of characters are the same ones who felt it necessary to impeach the president for the stupid action of lying about his stupid inability to keep his hands to himself. I am not saying Clinton was right in what he did with Lewinsky but to raise the consensual behavior of two adults to the level of Constitutional crisis and then to fail to respond to allegations of an adult hitting on a minor is to engage in the grossest form of hypocrisy. I think they've revealed themselves as empty bags of hot air with dubious morality. They're not interested in what's right; they're interested in scoring political points.

Would that they'd at least shut-the-hell-up about morals and work on actual issues like deficits, billions of missing dollars, the "War on Everything But Terror," and Congressional oversight (hah!) of the executive branch.
superbadgirl: nick coffee[personal profile] superbadgirl on October 3rd, 2006 07:45 pm (UTC)
And global warming. Don't forget global warming! ;)
Mish: Alec -- Profile[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on October 3rd, 2006 11:46 pm (UTC)
But...but...haven't we already dealt with it?

I knew it! You're one of those malcontents who keep nagging about how sticking our head in the sand is not a constructive method of dealing with a problem, aren't you? Geez! What do you want? Blood?!?!?
superbadgirl: the brothers winchester[personal profile] superbadgirl on October 4th, 2006 12:36 am (UTC)
Speaking of things warming up.

*stares at icon*
Mish: Alec -- Profile[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 01:24 am (UTC)
I've been playing with Dark Angel caps. I've got a few ready to publish but not enough to make a post, yet. I prefer to post "large batches" so that I'm not constantly posting icons. It's been such a hardship, staring at Mr. Ackles. :)

Sadly, this is a bit oversharpened but I made it before [livejournal.com profile] paddies kindly took hours out of her schedule to review and critique icons for me.
[identity profile] shadownyc.livejournal.com on October 3rd, 2006 08:45 pm (UTC)
ITA! This whole story made me so angry.
Mish: B/J & Jen -- Family[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on October 3rd, 2006 11:51 pm (UTC)
And you just know that with today's "surprise" announcement that Foley is gay (no! really?) that this will be used by homophobes to reinforce their lie that gay = pedophile. Bah! Of course, if Foley had been female it would Mary Kay LeTourneau II and there would be lots of jokes about how this is every teenaged boy's fantasy. *shudder*

Pardon me while I go and scream into my pillow.
[identity profile] shadownyc.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 12:00 am (UTC)
Go right ahead and scream. It's definitely worthy. :/
Mish: B/J & Jen -- Family[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 01:31 am (UTC)
I wish we'd protect our children regardles of their sex or the sex of their attackers. *sigh* The whole situation is just completely messed up. :(

It has been a bad week for America's children.
[identity profile] jane2005.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 12:04 am (UTC)
ITA with your assessment here.

I was thinking about how sad it is that this guy allowed himself to be shoved so far in the closet that maybe self-sabotage seems the only way out. More evidence that the Republican party's current incarnation is another Satanic joke.

Of course, now with the rest of it, too little too late.
Mish: B/J & Jen -- Family[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 01:54 am (UTC)
There's a part of me that really feels for Foley while a larger part of me is utterly repulsed. I'm mindful of how fortunate I am that my own sexual attractions do not tend to kids because I can't imagine the hell it must be to live with those impulses. OTOH, I find no forgiveness in my heart for child molesters. It's my own cognitive dissonance. :)

I don't actually understand the intersection between adult/child attraction and same sex/opposite sex attraction. I assume Foley's homosexuality directed his pedophilia onto boys but otherwise he'd have been hitting on girls. I'm not certain being in the closet about being gay has much to do with this behavior. I do wonder if he had any attraction to grown men and if living in the open would have helped distract him from the desire to have relations with children.

I am also very interested to know his votes on issues close to my heart that one would naturally assume a gay man would agree with: legalizing marriage for all of our citizens, equal rights, and so on. I know that growing up in a society that hates you can lead to self-loathing yet I continue to be surprised by gay men and women who vote against their own self-interests. Of course, we as women have Phyllis Schlafly so I suppose it's naive of me to be astonished.
[identity profile] jane2005.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 02:36 am (UTC)
Yeah, I don't feel sorry for the guy AT ALL.

I don't actually understand the intersection between adult/child attraction and same sex/opposite sex attraction.

That's because there isn't one - and you're intelligent so you know that. I think that what that was, was the Repug spin trying to appeal to the worst tendencies and ignorance of its voting block, who they think would equate this behavior with the gay thing and not with teh republican thing. "Oh, he's gay, so it has nothing to do with him being a typical lying hypocritical asshole Republican minion of Satan." Pathetic.

I think they're SERIOUSLY miscalculating the PR on this one, though.
Mish: B/J & Jen -- Family[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 11:15 am (UTC)
"...it has nothing to do with him being a typical lying hypocritical asshole Republican minion of Satan."
Aaaaaaand the Grape Nuts meet the keyboard!

I think they're SERIOUSLY miscalculating the PR on this one, though.
I do, too. I very much hope this leads to a big shakeup in the election. Alas, it's 5 weeks away and that, in American politics, is forever.

superbadgirl: god kills kittens[personal profile] superbadgirl on October 4th, 2006 01:12 am (UTC)
PS, don't you love the latest in the saga.

"I was molested...but PLEASE don't think that had anything to do with my behavior or my sexuality. No, no. That was alllll me. But I was. Molested, that is. When I was a teen."

Not to say it didn't happen, but I'm having a hard time seeing the relevance if it DIDN'T play into his behavior. And since he said it didn't, was it necessary to bring it up to the public? It just seems to me they're hoping to minimize damage by assuring the populace that he experienced this trauma as a child and plant the idea that it all stemmed from there.

I'm a cynic.
Mish: Alec -- Profile[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 02:05 am (UTC)
Yup. I do hate it. To me, being a victim makes it doubly horrific to turn around and victimize others.

Foley seems to be throwing excuses at the wall and hoping something will stick. "I'm an alcoholic! I'm mentally ill! I'm a victim! I'm gay!" I'm sure he's had a heavy burden to tote but since he only sought help after being exposed to the nation at large (being exposed to his Congressional colleagues wasn't enough?!?) I find it harder to credit the statements as anything other than self-serving excuses. I am not impressed.

I said it above in a comment but my heart *does* go out to those who are attracted to children. What a horrible burden to suffer. It's when their attraction becomes action that I find myself unable to forgive. I'm not certain how I can both feel a deep sympathy and an utter disgust for someone but I think the term is cognitive dissonance.
[identity profile] ml-spikie.livejournal.com on October 6th, 2006 12:42 am (UTC)
No wonder everyone hates Americans. Just this past week's news alone makes me despise us. Ok, obviously not all Americans - and certainly not my LJ friends, but this kind of crap certainly doesn't help. Oh, and did you hear the news story about the people from that Baptist church who were going to picket the funerals of those poor Amish girls?

The Westboro group says the Amish school girls were 'killed by a madman in punishment for Gov. Ed Rendell's blasphemous sins against Westboro Baptist Church. Gov. Ed Rendell -- speaking and acting in his official capacity to bind the State of Pennsylvania -- slandered and mocked and ridiculed and condemned Westboro Baptist Church on national Fox TV," the group says on its website.

Here we go - another morality politics thing - judge others in the name of religion. Thankfully, the local police chief got wind of it and vowed to surround the Amish people with every single officer he had. Get this - the head Amish guy said no - let them come. Now, of course, the religious zealots are backing off - no audience for their sick agenda. Takes the wind out of their sails I guess. ARGH!
Mish: Starbuck -- You...Call Me God (Anim)[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on October 6th, 2006 05:23 pm (UTC)
There are many things about Americans that I would change if I could. The tendency of a loud and rude minority to cling to their own fantasy worlds cloaked in religion is one of them. The Westboro nutjobs are lower than just about anything I can think of. Taking pleasure in other people's deaths, openly "praying" for more, is but one step away from those who fly planes into buildings.

I think they decided not to attack the Amish funerals because, when faced with people devoted to the ideal of forgiveness and peace even in times of their greatest duress, their own tawdry behavior is shown for the self-serving theater that it is. I have no respect for the Westboro haters.