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06 January 2006 @ 09:03 am
Stargate Question  
Why did Carter need a 'naquadah detector' for the bomb search? Don't we have at least 6.5 seasons of canon that a former host can sense naquadah? Isn't that the whole point of having turned her into a human goa'uld detector? I thought it was the very lack of naquadah that meant she couldn't detect the naquadah-free goa'uld in The First Ones? I admit that I haven't been following the story lines as closely as I once did but this has been bugging me since it originally aired and I haven't seen any discussion.

Besides how ludicrous was it to have Ba'al cloning himself like that**, building a naquadah-enhanced building on Earth long before he came to the planet, his sudden Australian accent, and then the ludicrous story resolution of passing off a beamed-into-space building as having exploded in a gas leak...I sometimes wonder if they set out to write the stupidest story they can and then see if anyone notices.

**I'm not really complaining about the cloned Ba'als. Cliff Simon is hot. I'll take six of him running around my screen. They've never gotten the biology/social structure of a Lemarkian-inheritance-of-memory creature right and it annoys me. A goa'uld doesn't need to clone its host - its offspring ARE clones in the truest sense since they have "genetic memory." True, the multiples make it easier to confuse our heroes and the Jaffa, but the Stargate timelines suck. Ba'al would have been cloning his host long before the Earth Stargate was even opened to have so many adult clones that had stopped aging at the exact same age he is currently. I'll stop bitching now - I was really more interested in discussion of what happened to Carter's ability than in how the writers flaunt their science ignorance. ;-)
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[identity profile] majorsamfan.livejournal.com on January 6th, 2006 05:11 pm (UTC)
First I have to say, the "wiggle" icon is hysterically funny.

Second, Sam *has* previously been able to sense the presence of a naquadah-carrying Goa'uld, so not exactly sure why she'd need any sort of detector. However, two thoughts...(1) she wasn't the only one scanning the building, and it was a *big* building and (2) maybe having the whole building being completely infused with the substance would have her senses on "overload", unable to pinpoint the exact source.

I questioned Teal'c's comment in another recent episode about the motherships not possessing cloaking capability. I thought Apophis had done that in that spatial minefield, in the episode where Jacob and SG-1 went to reprogram the mine to blow up one of the Goa'ulds' ships. ("It's all Phoenician to me, Sir!") But maybe he only cloaked lesser ships, not motherships - maybe had only *one* mothership, though I thought the term referred more to the size than the thought that they had only one per Goa'uld.

TPTB have answered the question of whether there was a "Bible" for the writers - in fact, said it was bigger than THE Bible - so either it's just carelessness or lack of time or just choosing to ignore stuff in the past because it messes up what they want to accomplish now.
Mish: Soldier Sam[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on January 6th, 2006 06:29 pm (UTC)
Isn't it, though? I wish I'd made it because it's just so clever. I really should have used a Sam icon on this post since it's a question about her but I couldn't resist Daniel shaking his booty.

I wish they'd shown us Sam dealing with an overload of her senses and needing something less sensitive - but since she figures out that Ba'al interlaced the entire building with naquadah because the sensor indicates it's uniformly distributed throughout the building...I kinda think she'd have gotten the idea from the way the building pinged her equally where ever she was.

I just find it impossible to understand how not just the writers...but the actors, the crew, the editors...how many people in the production could have seen this and gone, "uh, guys...isn't Carter herself a naquadah detector?"

I wish they'd hold a Stargate marathon for everyone involved in the show because it seems like these inconsistencies are cropping up more frequently. When they're forgetting a major plot point like Sam being goa'ulded, finding the Tok'ra, and then being able to sense naquadah, then I have extreme difficulty in maintaining my suspension of disbelief.

I agree with you about Teal'c's comment on cloaking motherships. Of course goa'uld can cloak their motherships. I thought it was a recent innovation - that's why it was such a surprise back when Apophis (Pops! How I miss you! *sniffle*) cloaked his fleet of motherships - but we've known for years that they can do that.
[identity profile] majorsamfan.livejournal.com on January 6th, 2006 09:08 pm (UTC)
How much naquadah would it take for her to sense it, I wonder? Maybe they were assuming a small amount.

But yeah, a line about the senses overloaded would have been appropriate. Maybe they cut it for time.
Mish: Daniel + Sam = Friends[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on January 7th, 2006 06:20 am (UTC)
That is all fuzzy, isn't it? Luckily, [livejournal.com profile] moonshayde gave me a fanwank I'm willing to run with in that we've never seen Sam detect naquadah that isn't in an organic being. Maybe she can't detect it in its inorganic state since she doesn't currently have a symbiote. That'll work for me. :)