Sunday night 8pm is when tricia, tricia's mom, janie and I will be going. It's all of $20.00 or so.

We'll pick up the train at secaucus and go from there. it's on 54th...

Nope Cliff wasn't my instructor. :)

As for the hotel, Creation's been contacted repeatedly by people I know, and they claim they're just moving the hotel to somewhere else in the NJ/NY area.

East rutherford hotel was ok, but the public bathrooms were horrendous. least Crowne Plaza keeps an eye on those.