10 June 2010 @ 06:40 pm
TV Meme: Day 2  
Day 01 - A show that should never have been canceled: Firefly
Day 02 - A show that you wish more people were watching:


I have no idea what the ratings are for various shows. I'm assuming that In Plain Sight must have had some issues because they've "re-vamped" the program and now it feels more pedestrian.

The focus on Mary's family life with her mother and sister is being downplayed/eliminated and I'm sorry for it. Yes, at times it was overdone but it was wonderful to have a show that revolved around three flawed but strong women. Sadly, the show's no longer centered around women talking to women about something other than men and recurring characters of color are being eliminated/sidelined. I still enjoy the show because Mary is a kick ass character whom I enjoy watching, the interaction with her partner Marshal Marshall Mann is always a winner, and I'm happy to see Paul Ben-Victor (Invisible Man). It just isn't the same.

Day 03 - Your favorite new show (aired this TV season):
Day 04 - Your favorite show ever:
Day 05 - A show you hate:
Day 06 - Favorite episode of your favorite TV show:
Day 07 - Least favorite episode of your favorite TV show:
Day 08 - A show everyone should watch:
Day 09 - Best scene ever:
Day 10 - A show you thought you wouldn't like but ended up loving:
Day 11 - A show that disappointed you:
Day 12 - An episode you've watched more than 5 times:
Day 13 - Favorite childhood show:
Day 14 - Favorite male character:
Day 15 - Favorite female character:
Day 16 - Your guilty pleasure show:
Day 17 - Favorite mini series:
Day 18 - Favorite title sequence:
Day 19 - Best TV show cast:
Day 20 - Favorite kiss:
Day 21 - Favorite ship
Day 22 - Favorite series finale
Day 23 - Most annoying character
Day 24 - Best quote
Day 25 - A show you plan on watching (old or new)
Day 26 - OMG WTF? Season finale
Day 27 - Best pilot episode
Day 28 - First TV show obsession
Day 29 - Current TV show obsession
Day 30 - Saddest character death´╗┐´╗┐
 
 
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ext_22444: IPS Mary[identity profile] geonncannon.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 11:49 pm (UTC)
I have to disagree with you on this! Respectfully, of course. :D

I'm actually glad they're downplaying Mary's mother and sister, because I never thought they were strong but flawed. I found them frustrating and irritating. Raph was fine, but I'm not exactly sad he's gone. I like the increased emphasis on the cases, rather than her home life. On episodes like last night, when they focus on Mary's sister and ~sigh~ new brother, the episode feels bogged down and weighted.

It could just be that I don't like the actress that plays Brandi, and I don't like the guy playing her brother. But give me a solid hour like "When Mary Met Marshall," focusing on the partnership between these two, I'm in heaven. I think Mary and Marshall is one of the best partnerships on TV. And thankfully they're not toning down Mary's kick-ass personality. Did you notice in one episode, when Mary and two male agents had to rescue someone, Mary attacked while Marshall got the witness to safety? It's the little things like that that make me think this is an awesome show for women characters. I don't think we need another episode about Jinx struggling with alcoholism.

That said, it's good that Jinx and Brandi weren't completely written out and are still recurring. They're very good in small doses. :D
Mish: Teryl & Amanda -- Lipstick[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 10th, 2010 11:59 pm (UTC)
I knew it would be a controversial opinion. :) I felt like once Jinx finally took steps to defeat her alcoholism and put together her life, she's gone. We got the wallowing without the payoff. I liked all of the actresses so I had no issues there.

I haven't seen last night's episode. I'm recording now and only watching when the mood strikes. That's a sign that I'm on the way to being an occasional watcher rather than a weekly one.

I agree that the Mary/Marshall partnership is unique on television and worth tuning in for. I just liked that men were present -- and important -- but weren't the kernal of the show. That's rare on television and IPS was the only action show. I'm looking forward to the Rizzolli and Isles.
ext_22444: Rizzoli & Isles Bed[identity profile] geonncannon.livejournal.com on June 11th, 2010 12:07 am (UTC)
It's important to be able to debate shows with your friends! :D And I can understand that issue, not getting the payoff with Jinx. But like I said, small doses... I like that she got her life together enough to move out, and she has that dance class. And going out to hug Mary after Raphe left? That was so great.

I understand that issue. Strong women leads are so rare, but USA seems to be trying. They have Mary leading IPS, and Covert Affairs is coming up with Piper Perabo as the lead. Also a Sarah Shahi-led show is in the offing, I think? Here's hoping!

I agree with you about Rizzoli and Isles. Look at my icon and see how much I want that show to hurry up and start. ;-D
Mish: Janet -- Gorgeous Smile & Twinkling Eyes[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 11th, 2010 02:36 am (UTC)
Debate and disagree. It's all good. :) I'm glad that it works in its new configuration for someone. I'll agree with you that her family could be annoying -- there were times I wanted wring their necks -- but it was real. Or, it was to me.

USA and TNT are doing the yeoman's job of presenting strong women and I want to give them props for their efforts. For this particular show, though, they gutted the part that I thought made it unique. Now it stands out because of Mary but she's a woman in a sea of men.

I hope that we both fall in love with Rizzoli and Isles. I like the actresses so I figure I'm predisposed to enjoy it. *crosses fingers for good writers*
ext_22444: SGU TJ/James Infirmary[identity profile] geonncannon.livejournal.com on June 11th, 2010 03:46 pm (UTC)
I can understand that. And YES, wringing the family's necks... I can understand that. But when frustrated by my family, I don't want to watch someone ELSE with a frustrating family. I want escape. :D

I will say the two characters I miss like hell are Bobby D and Eleanor. I loved Mary and Eleanor's love/hate relationship, and Bobby D was just badass (a black Jew riding a horse. What's not to love? ;-D).

I read the first Rizzoli novel (without realizing when I started that Isles wasn't even in it) and... I REALLY hope they change her character. A lot. I talked about it on my LJ when I read it, but Rizzoli was just a crappy character in the books. I already like her better in the preview I've seen (where she and Isles wash a dog in the morgue sink :D), so I'm hopeful they fixed the problems (or maybe the author fixed the problems in future books).
Mish: Vala -- Goddess Next Door[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 12th, 2010 05:32 pm (UTC)
I didn't think I was going to like Eleanor because she seemed kind of stuck onto the cast but her thing with Mary was nicely done and I ended up loving her.

That's not a promising review for Rizzoli and Isles. I tend to NOT read the books before watching a show because they can never make the show as good as the book is in my head. But this maybe I should make an exception for so that I can appreciate how much better they made it!
ext_22444: Vala/Sam Blue[identity profile] geonncannon.livejournal.com on June 13th, 2010 12:52 am (UTC)
I don't know what the deal was with the first Rizzoli novel. It seemed like the entire thing was framed to make you hate her as much as you did the villain. Rizzoli was a harridan, basically. The entire book is a hot mess. The focus is on a male investigator who is Just So Perfect he can't understand why people may not like him (as he "falls in love with" and beds a rape survivor who is the focus of their case) and it all brews together into a barely mediocre boilerplate crime thriller.

That said, the fact the show is called "Rizzoli & Isles" makes me hopeful that the focus will be solely where it belongs, on the two women. That and the fact I have no idea who else is in the show. I'm going to ignore the books entirely and take the series as its own entity. And hope for the best. ;-)
Mish: Sam -- Can Quit Anytime[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 13th, 2010 03:42 am (UTC)
Wow. Somebody read that book and thought, "this could be a little more serialized." Wonders never cease. Thanks for the warning because there's a book I do not need to read.

I'm still psyched for the show but maybe a little more cautious as to what it'll be.
superbadgirl: IPS trojan horst[personal profile] superbadgirl on June 11th, 2010 01:49 am (UTC)
And I have to agree with you, respectfully.

Were Brandi and Jinx sometimes super annoying? Yes, but you know what? EVERYthing about that family dynamic rang very true. I enjoyed the family moments even when I wanted to shake one or all three of those women.

Now they've stripped most of the personal stuff out and made it more like a regular procedural and, well, there are about four hundred billion of those already.

Plus, I love Mary. I love Marshall. But what I loved most about this show was MaryNMarshall, and I don't mean that shippy. I loved that it was about her and he was steadfastly the second banana, but present. At her back. Now we're lucky to get a few minutes of them together in an episode, or so it seems.

I still enjoy the show, but it's really cooled off for me this year because of the changes.
Mish: Sam -- Gorgeous On Black[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 11th, 2010 02:44 am (UTC)
You stated what I was trying to, only you ACTUALLY said it. Soooo much better. I wanted to strangle Jinx and Brandi so many times but yes, the dynamic felt real even when there were television exaggeration issues.

made it more like a regular procedural and, well, there are about four hundred billion of those already.

THIS THIS THIS.

But what I loved most about this show was MaryNMarshall, and I don't mean that shippy.

THIS THIS THIS. I really liked that there was a lead female, a lead male, they had some sparkage, worked together oh-so-well, but they weren't being thrown together. Because in real life, that rarely happens. It's possible to work with hot, great men and NOT end up pining after them. No, really, T.V.

I loved that it was about her and he was steadfastly the second banana, but present. At her back.

THIS THIS THIS. YES! The dynamics were the inverse of how these shows are always done. And the writing was great so it offered more than "we're not your usual gender roles" show.

Thank you for stating it so much better than I did. You nailed on the head what I was trying to say.
superbadgirl: brain twin[personal profile] superbadgirl on June 11th, 2010 03:10 am (UTC)
I've been pretty disappointed this year.

The remodel of Mary's house is a perfect mirror for what they did with the show - it was all done off camera, and what we're left with is something that is sleek and beautiful, but kind of without soul. What good is beauty, really, if it's empty?

I figured I was in for a bummer when they glossed over Mary's shooting so quickly. I mean, it was frigging emotional (gah, Marshall weeping, FCOL) and what is the follow through? Focus more on the cases, the people we don't see from week to week. That makes no sense to me.

For as annoying as Brandi and Jinx could be sometimes, there was something there. A real, honest, horrible look at family. I always thought it was unfortunate their dysfunction revolved around the father/husband figure, but where it could have been all about him, the show made viewing how the Shannon women got the way they were almost always more about them.

I ramble. The show wasn't without problems in its original format, for sure - hello, race issues galore, which is part and parcel for everything USA produces. It's a great sea of white out there, but I thought they were always stepping the right way with gender.
Mish: SPN -- Anna[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 12th, 2010 05:02 pm (UTC)
Glossing over Mary's shooting is just so weird because it was such a pivotal moment for every single character. It's such a let-down.

always thought it was unfortunate their dysfunction revolved around the father/husband figure,

Even when it isn't about men, it's about men. *sigh* I like the way they handled it, too, though I wish they'd chosen a different crux to turn on. I don't hate men, they're nearly half of humanity after all and some of my best friends are men, but couldn't one action show not be about them?
[identity profile] riverfox.livejournal.com on June 11th, 2010 04:08 pm (UTC)
I liked last season. I don't know why they changed the format. They had already renewed it, so what was there to change? Idiots.
Mish[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 12th, 2010 04:50 pm (UTC)
I know, right? It stood out amongst all the other shows on the tube and now it's one of a crowd. :(
[identity profile] riverfox.livejournal.com on June 12th, 2010 04:58 pm (UTC)
I swear, the only time a show has freer license to be itself is when it's on a pay channel like Showtime or HBO.
Mish[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 12th, 2010 05:03 pm (UTC)
Sadly true. Double sad since I no longer pay for those channels.
[identity profile] riverfox.livejournal.com on June 12th, 2010 05:23 pm (UTC)
That's what torrents are for. *gg*
Mish[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 12th, 2010 05:28 pm (UTC)
I'm clearly going to have to learn about torrents. I've been so analog in my digital life.
[identity profile] riverfox.livejournal.com on June 12th, 2010 06:01 pm (UTC)
LOL!

If it weren't for torrents, most of my videos and music would be gone, and half my software would be missing. When I had a job, I had no problem paying for stuff. But until I get some sort of income going again, torrents will continue to be my mainstay.
Mish[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 12th, 2010 06:19 pm (UTC)
Now that I'm essentially in that same boat, I'll be looking into more torrents. I've always waited for the DVDs and been a paying fan since I could and I wanted to support the industry but they really kind of cheesed me off by taking so long to release True Blood S2. I'm willing to wait until the season ends but waiting until the new season was ready to start was ridiculous.
[identity profile] riverfox.livejournal.com on June 12th, 2010 06:36 pm (UTC)
When you're ready to d/l, I suggest the client, uTorrent. I've been using it for a few years and it's very good.

Also, bookmark EZTV. They have the largest compendium of TV show downloads and I use it for all my TV d/l. Am currently d/l the premiere of Penn and Teller's Bullshit 8th season to see what they're going to bitch about this season. ;)
Mish: Teal'c / Cam -- Hug[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 12th, 2010 06:46 pm (UTC)
Oh man - thank you! I've been somewhat hesitant given all the stories of viruses via torrents that used to swirl around years ago. I'll go off and check this out now! You always know the best links. *HUGS*
[identity profile] riverfox.livejournal.com on June 12th, 2010 07:51 pm (UTC)
You're welcome! *hugs*

When it comes to viruses, they *are* out there, but any torrent worth a damn will have user comments that will give clues. Rule of thumb, always check the files, even if they're rar'd. If there are any files without extensions that have no explanation *why* they have no extension, delete the d/l.

Some uploaders are known to have clean and easy installation uploads, and the giveaway is a massive amount of thank yous, as well as having a VIP or busy site profile.

If you'd like some newish software, here's a user at a d/l site who's extremely reliable. :) The site also has other useful stuff I've found over the years. :)
Mish[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 13th, 2010 03:43 am (UTC)
I'm going to need a crib sheet but I suppose this will seem common-sensical once I've tried it.
[identity profile] riverfox.livejournal.com on June 13th, 2010 12:58 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it's a little daunting, but it's easy. Once you know the few things you need to, observation will take care of the rest. *g* Feel free to shoot me an email. Or keep commenting here, too. ;)
[identity profile] riverfox.livejournal.com on June 12th, 2010 07:52 pm (UTC)
PS -- KickAss Torrents is a very good place to start, too. Hell, they even have a facebook page. ;)
Mish[identity profile] hsapiens.livejournal.com on June 13th, 2010 03:44 am (UTC)
*smooches you* I love your brain!
[identity profile] riverfox.livejournal.com on June 13th, 2010 12:58 pm (UTC)
LOL *mwas*